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Visitor (Class Fa) Tourist Subclass 600 Visa Been Refused, Can I Appeal


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#1 Ringo

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 02:13 PM

Dear all, I've been researching and I came across this forum (Thank God for this forum) and I needed some help if it may apply.
 
I am applying Australia visa for my mom -she is Indonesian- while I'm Malaysian.
We are going for a family trip in this year July 2018.
So we apply with the help of my agent, but this is what I got after our first application. My mom doesn't have bank account therefore I will be the one sponsoring my mom.
I included my poor bank statement and after rejected, my agent told me that we need to show a stronger amount. I'm in shock why didn't she tell me earlier?! She didn't warned me either because I still have my fixed deposit statement that I can include.
 
Since then, my agent tried to appeal 2 times by emailing them my other stronger statements but there is no respond. It's been a month now waiting. In the refusal letter there is this:
"Questions about this decision
We cannot consider your visa application any further."
 
I'm so sad that my mom couldn't travel with us now. I still can't believe that my first application been ruined away just like that.
Question is, will they respond to our appeal letter? or I need to re-apply?
I'm still hesitating to re-apply because of my current residing state, we need to fly over to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia to do the biometrics process all over again. It will cost us double. Plus I can't guarantee will they grant us on the second application.
 
Now here's my refusal notification:
 
Findings
Under migration law, an application is made for a class of visa and your application must be
considered against the criteria for all subclasses within that visa class.
Your application has been considered against the criteria for the following subclasses within
the VISITOR (Class FA) visa class:
● Subclass 600 - VISITOR
 
You did not satisfy the requirements in clause 600.212 of the Regulations, which provides as
follows:
600.212
The applicant has:
a- adequate means to support himself or herself; or
b- access to adequate means to support himself or herself;
during the period of the applicant’s intended stay in Australia.
 
Reasons
In reaching my decision that you do not satisfy clause 600.212, I considered several factors,
including:
● The statement that your daughter sponsoring your proposed stay in Australia
● The amount of funds available to you and your daughter to cover the entire period of
your proposed stay in Australia
● You have not provided sufficient documentation to demonstrate that you have, or have
access to, adequate available funds to support yourself and your family during the
proposed stay in Australia
As you do not meet at least one clause in Schedule 2 of the Regulations, ie clause 600.212, I
have not turned my mind to whether you satisfy the other Schedule 2 criteria.
 
Decision
As you do not meet at least one clause in Schedule 2 of the Regulations, I find that you do
not meet the criteria for the grant of a VISITOR (Class FA) VISITOR (Subclass 600) visa.
Therefore, I refuse your application for a VISITOR (Class FA) VISITOR (Subclass 600) visa.
 
Thank you so much!



#2 AussieDude

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:56 PM

Appeal is not a option for you.

 

You can re-apply at any time, as long as you address the original refusal reason, that is, failing to show sufficient funds available.  I quote "You have not provided sufficient documentation to demonstrate that you have, or have access to, adequate available funds to support yourself and your family during the proposed stay in Australia".  If you show proof I see no reason why you will not get a grant.

 

Is your agent MARA registered? from what you say, your agent has not given you good advice.

 

Remember to formally sponsor a family member under a VV, the sponsor must be a PR or Citizen.  For a normal VV, each applicant must show they  EACH have the funds to visit.

 

Are you a PR or are both of you applying for VV?




#3 Ringo

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:02 AM

Hello AussieDude,

 

Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it ^^

 

I'm not sure about my agent is MARA registered or not but I do suspect that because she didn't explain much to me. She just told me to prepare to documents, ask me few questions and that's it. Then we are told by her to fly to Kuala Lumpur for the biometrics process. I'm so frustrated because it seems like I'm the one to do the follow up and research more. I'm so upset when we got the refusal results.

 

I'm not PR, both of us applying for VV as well but for Malaysians we can apply the ETA Visa, except for my mom which is an Indonesian. She married to my father (Malaysian) and since then staying in Malaysia for more than 30 years. I'm taking my parents to Australia for a short family trip (their first time). I've been to Australia few times.

 

As for my mom case, like what you mention "For a normal VV, each applicant must show they EACH have the funds to visit."

My mom doesn't have her own bank account or income as she is a housewife. Therefore the agent apply me as the daughter to sponsor her.

Is this the reason we got rejected because she don't have her own finance support? We are unsure if the agent apply this correctly or not too.

Does this means I need to provide a stronger bank statement as a proof or my mom need to have her own bank account when I re-apply?

 

Thank you so much again.




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Posted 13 April 2018 - 01:50 PM

if your agent isn't MARA registered you are wasting your money. and given that they told you that you can sponsor your mum then I would say they aren't. only a Australian PR or citizen can sponsor.
letters of support can be provided but it's up to the individual case officer if they accept it.
basically your mum needs to be able to access the funds herself in her name.
it's to act as a precaution if something happens they can support themselves ect.


#5 Ringo

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:07 PM

Hello Aussie_83,

 

Yes I am feeling that I waste the money too, it is like buy me an expensive lesson, and thank you for telling me now that I realized that my mom need to have her own funds/ stable bank statement during her visit. I think the letter of support is not convincing enough. So I guess I just have to give up on this because even if my mom create a new bank account, you need a certain amount inside to proof or else they will said insufficient funds >.<

I should have do more research before I bought those tickets, Lesson learnt.




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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:24 AM

Ringo, 

 

Its simple, just get your mum to open a bank account, and you deposit the required funds into the account.  Then get a Statement and attach that to her VV application.  Once she is here she can do whatever she wants with the monyer, i.e send it all back to you.

 

Aussie_83 and I state the same thing almost daily,   GET A MARA REGISTERED AGENT.

 

All MARA agnets have to regsitered, and all Registration can be checked here  https://www.mara.gov...gration-agents/

 

If they dont come up on the MARA search they are fake, no exceptions.




#7 Ringo

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:14 AM

Hello Morning AussieDude,

 

We just open a bank account for my mom last week. But it's too soon I'm not sure will they be suspicious on the large amount or not once I deposited. Or will they check back her first application?

 

Yes I'm checking on the website, I found two agents in my town. I will try to contact them first and let them know my mom's case.

Thank you so much!

 

P/S: Do the MARA agents handled VV application as well? I thought they only help in migration clients.




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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:55 PM

you need to address the refusal reasons so you would explain this is what you have done and that's why it's only been opened a short amount of time.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:57 PM

and they handle any. some specialise in certain areas but a VV is very basic and shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
just seeing the last so called agent really botched the first one i think the added help would be good.





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