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Todays words of wisdom;  Medical Exams, will I pass, do I/don't I tell DIBP I have disease xxx?

 

The medical screening of visitors (not all) and immigrants exists to protect Australia, both medically and financially.

 

The medical will determine if you suffer from a serious illness that is either 1) a major health risk to the Australian public (ie TB, Ebola) or the condition will cost the Australian Taxpayers a lot of money to treat you under medicare.  This criteria also extends to illnesses that medical support is in very short supply, ie some mental disorders.

 

Only TB will (normally) get you an immediate rejection, all other conditions are assessed by Medical staff (not Visa staff) for the public safety aspect,  and long term cost of care.  There are option for appeal, second opinions, and even if your condition does present adverse long term cocts, you may also be able to sign a Health Waiver' that allows you to either pre-pay the costs or allow The Australian Government to recover the costs from you.

 

What you must not do is lie or try to conceal an illness.  Being caught lying on the medical is a very serious offence, and usually results in rejection.

 

Be 100% truthful and open, Always.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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The complete procedure of getting Australia PR Visa varies from applicant to applicant, the applicant can migrate to Australia under different skilled programs and Australia Government stated the point based system. The applicant has to score the minimum of 60 points and higher will be beneficial if you are looking for the invitation. The things that could be kept in mind before applying are

1. Should score minimum of 60 points

2. Should have work experience if applying for the skilled visa.

3. Should be submitted all the relevant documents with accuracy.

4. Should take help of the authorized consultancy for the same.

5.Must score good marks in ILETs and professoriat in English.
 

If you are looking for Skilled Independent Visa, it is better to get consultation from the authorized visa consultant.


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This weeks rant ('rant' to Shout and complain angrily and at length. a 'tirade')

 

Refused Visa: Not a Genuine TEMPORARY Visitor, or

 

My Visa Was Refused....."I am not satisfied that the applicant’s personal circumstances support her claims that she intends to temporarily stay in Australia as a visitor. Therefore, I find that she does not meet clause 600.211."  Or si
 
This is the standard and 'classic' reply that DIBP gives when they feel that there is a high risk of a person (applicant) from a economically poorer country, seeking entry TEMPORARY into Australia, will overstay the granted visa.   
 
Unfortunately, thousands of TEMPORARY visitors each year promise to stay for just the visa period, but drop off the radar and overstay, most seeking a better life or earning money for their family overseas. 
 
For this discussion, Ill call these overstaying visitors 'illegals'.  A hard but accurate term.
 
A lot of these illegal visitors who do this, are often forced into 'cash' or off the book jobs, often earning far less than minimum, award or regular wages. Not being registered or legitimate employees, they have no workers rights, OH&S insurance, fair protection or support. 
 
They tolerate these conditions often for fear of being found out and deported, as any form of work on a Vistors Visa, paid or in kind, is not allowed.
 
This situation has created a sad but epidemic 'slave' labour market, exploited by effectively criminal employers. 
 
Most at risk are younger women working in the hospitality, sex, massage and beauty industries, and men working in low skilled manual labour and construction jobs.   
 
So here's these pinch.  People say its their choice and what does it matter?
 
Because of our OH&S, Workplace and Medicare laws, which protect any person regardless of visa status (people first), when these exploited individuals suffer an workplace accident, they are uninsured, so the Government, aka us taxpayers, foots the bill for their medical and rehabilitation costs.  Or worse, their accident is not reported, and they go without basic medical treatment and help.  They go without workers basic rights, fair treatment, and access to any form of support and help.
 
Unlike some 'developed' nations, no one will be turned away from an Australian hospital, ever.  People first, money second.   The Aussie taxpayer again picking up the bill, if the hospital cant recover the costs.
 
Secondly, these scumbag criminal employers, exploiting these illegals, do so for personal profit.  But as long as there is a pool of illegals eager to work for cash, off the books, these employers will take them in.   Even though its a criminal offence for an employer to employ an illegal, the type of people these employers are dont give a shit about the law.
 
Hence, DIBP and Government policy is to curb the flow of potential illegals, regardless how unfair it may be sometimes.   They do this by scrutinizing all VV applications from high risk individuals, and their 'compelling' reason to return home at the end of the visa.
 
A large portion of DIBP resources is devoted to weeding out potential illegals, when it could be used to hasten the genuine migration applicants.

 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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This weeks insights.....

 

I obtained some statistics from IMMI regarding visa 'refusal' reasons this week.  Over 60% of all Visa refusal decisions by IMMI are due to INCOMPLETE applications.

 

Every Visa application form (online or offline) has a checklist on what documents/evidence you MUST include with the application.

 

So, if you actually check the checklist, and include/attach/upload EVERYTHING  IMMI states as required, you will improve your chances of a visa grant by 60%.

 

Ain't that hard people.


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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This weeks gripe.......    Fake MARA Immigration Agents.

 

The Australian Government formally registers and governs all Immigration Agents, through a Government Agency called the "Office of the Migration Agents Registration Authority" or M.A.R.A for short. In Australia, it is now illegal for any person or company to trade as, or provide any form of Immigration (into Australia) Services unless they are MARA Registered.  This was to stamp out the multitude of fake agents preying on unknowing foreigners.  The legality of Immigration agents providing Australian Immigration Advice and Services, who operate outside of Australia are not subject to Australian Law (obviously).

 

Many offshore Immigration Agents claim to be 'Approved' Registered' or ' Certified' by the Australian government.  In my experience 80% of these agents are not registered and are fake.  I see this particularly in China (PRC), India, Pakistan and Thailand.

 

To be a MARA agent you must have formal University Qualifications in Immigration LAw, and suitable industry experience, its not that easy to get a MARA Registration.

 

So, if you are planning to use an agent to assist you with an Australian Immigration Visa/Application etc, regardless if you are offshore or onshore, be sure they are MARA Registered.  Get their MARA number and check it on the Official MARA Govt website:  https://www.mara.gov.au/search-the-register-of-migration-agents/ Its free and easy.  If the search does not match the Company Name and Individual Agents name, then its likely they are fake. Check always, do not accept 'certificates' and 'licenses' they can all be forged.

 

There are plenty of MARA agents operating offshore, the same rules apply.  The MARA website pr the local Australian Embassy will be able to list who is local to you.

 

If they do not check out on the MARA website then they are fake, no excuses no exceptions.

 

Daily on this forum we read about people spending thousands of $AU for 'agent fees' and getting crap service, bad advice, and refused visa's.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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The complete procedure of getting Australia PR Visa varies from applicant to applicant, the applicant can migrate to Australia under different skilled programs and Australia Government stated the point based system. The applicant has to score the minimum of 60 points and higher will be beneficial if you are looking for the invitation. The things that could be kept in mind before applying are

 

1. Should score minimum of 60 points

 

2. Should have work experience if applying for the skilled visa.

 

3. Should be submitted all the relevant documents with accuracy.

 

4. Should take help of the authorized consultancy for the same.

 

5.Must score good marks in ILETs and professoriat in English.

 

If you are looking for Skilled Independent Visa, it is better to get consultation from the authorized visa consultant.

Your website claims that you are MARA Registered, but a MARA serach says there are no companies of your name or similar that are registered.  What is your MARA Registration Number?


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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Photographs as evidence.

 

Generally photographs, by themselves are becoming less valid as evidence for various aspects of visa's (established relationship, etc), because you cant proove when a photo was taken, and doctoring (photoshopping) can be almost undetectable these days.

 

However, if a photo is support by other pieces of corroborating evidence then it paints a more complete and verifiable piece of evidence, ie.

 

  • A photo of the couple in a restaurant, plus a copy of the dated restaurant bill, and a contact name at the restaurant to confirm the reservation is solid.
  • A photo of you both at a birthday party with others, with names and contact details of the others in the photo (or better still stac decs from the others), plus copies of email inviting you to the party, and a receipt for a present purchased for the birthday is again solid.

 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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a prime example i always reference is someone posted to the forum looking for advice on a partner visa, they knew each other online 6 months meet for 2 weeks, in that 2 weeks he was going to use 2000 photos of them together to provide all the evidence.

first up how you can take/get that many photos in 2 weeks is beyond me, and they were only the ones he was going to use!! b

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one thing to do post Grant. read your grant letter. all of it and remember the dates on it.

i just caught in time friends went overseas, their PR travel rights ran out 3 years ago, they tried to say no-one told us but it is in bold in the very first line of the visa grant. fortunatly i thought of it while they still had 2 weeks and got them to do a RRV online and it was approved in 2 days.

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Not like I'm complaining about immi cause I get it..they have to identify genuine relationships but it's hurting the genuince ones. I think the required evidences are way too many..like when you are together you don't think of making a picture to the receipt or to a bus ticket, and because of this, not gathering "enough of that too many required proof" affects the visa application .

If you're planning to apply for visa each move you make, you must be sure is recorded and you gather proof (:. Yea..but if you spend time together and then you decide to aplly for a visa? Not that much proof beforehand. Just 2 in love humans that complete each other from diferent countries want to be together..papers staying between them it's just heart breaking. 

I was very honest in my visitor application and it was refused. My current fiance sent me funds via bank (mentioned in the statement and explained) cause it was required an exorbitant minimum amount; + letter of invitation from his parents to stay with them and him and everything from accomodation, food was written there..+ statements, proof of relationship and all the required documents. It's true I didn't have a reason to return from their perspective but in statements we were honest and mentioned that we want a future together and we won't do anything to jeopardise it, respecting the law and visa conditions. I believe some people are subjective, unfortunately. 

We just want to be together and when we have to live separately it's just heartbroken..you know you can't be with your loved one because of some papers that humans created.

Also I want to thank you Aussie_83. I read your previous articles and I admire you for puttin s much effort and spending your personal time to help everyone. I'm happy world still has people like you. If this is not the right location to post I'll be ok to remove it.

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On 8/24/2017 at 10:13 PM, AussieDude said:

When do I buy air tickets, when do I get a PCC or medical done?

 

I see this question all the time, and so many people get it wrong.

 

I always advise.....

  1. Wait until IMMI or your CO formally requests (usually in writing or a message on the portal) you get a medical or get a PCC. Do not get either without a request.
    1. Getting  a PCC earlier than needed you run the risk of the PCC being out of date when its finally called for.
    2. IMMI normally specify what doctor and medical centre you must use, anyone else will be rejected. You must use the IMMI specified doctor. There are some situations when you can use any doctor, but again wait for the request.
  2. Dont purchase airline tickets, insurance, accommodation etc UNTIL you have a visa grant in hand. I know there are savings to be made with advance purchase, but you may get a rejection and loose your investment altogether
    1. If you MUST purchase before a visa grant, be sure to get open tickets, where you can move the travel dates without penalty.
    2. If your on your first VV, be sure to purchase a return ticket, IMMI look for this as an indicator of possible overstay.

Hi, im from malaysia and currently im in the process of reapplying vv for my husband which is Permanent resident here (he is Indonesian). his 1st application was rejected due to low income + insufficient fund in his bank account.. " After taking into consideration of your employment ties in Malaysia, I do not consider the salary as meaningful for the purpose of this assessment and that your employment and salary do not represent significant incentive for your return to Malaysia."

so for this 2nd application we had already put in some money (approx AUD5K) into his bank account together with attached letter  saying that my sister will be his financial sponsor. ( this is  a family trip including my sister, my mom n my brother).

so, i want to know beside the supporting document from my sister (as sponsor) do i need to provide my financial document as well to support my husband application?

since this is our first time to australia, does it help if we purchase return ticket for my husband , and include it in his application?because we haven't buy the return ticket yet as many advised wait for the visa to be granted first. .tq in advanced for your responses.

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OK, addressing the personal fund is one issue resolved.  The other core reason for rejection is that his Job in Malaysia is not that well paid, and there is no good reason for him to return to that job. They are worried he will overstay as work here is much better paid.

Having money in his account and letters of support from your sister are all good, BUT, you need to address the core issue of what will compel him to return to Malaysia when his visa has ended.

I assume you both live in Malaysia together.  So proof of debt (mortgage, car loan, bank loan etc) will help to establish a good reason to return.  Do you have children staying behind in Malaysia, that is also a good reason. If you dont appropriately address the issue of a 'compelling reason to return home' you will get the same rejection result.

Regrettably Indonesian Nationals have a very bad reputation for overstay to seek better paid work.


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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I think I have said this a thousand times.  If you make stuff up, lie or stretch the truth on ANY visa application, there is a 99% chance IMMI will catch you out.

IN Australia, a lie is a lie, truth is truth.  There is no grey zone.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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So today I want to unpack Sponsorship versus Offer of Support with regard to Visitor visa (subclass 600).

With Visitor Visa's,  there a couple of sub-types (streams), the most common being the Tourist Visa. I will be talking about this general Tourist Visa, and not the sponsored Family stream.  But for quick context, the Sponsored Family Stream is only available to Citizens and PR holders, who wish to sponsor family members to visit.  Most often this requires a bond to be put up by the Sponsor, and is usually the path for family members who would not normally qualify for a Tourist Visa (i.e retired parents with no solid ties to return home).

Because of the concept of a Sponsored Family Visitors Visa, a lot of people assume, you can sponsor a Tourist. This is not correct.  The following generally applies to applicants from higher risk countries, from lower socio-economic status, or where they may be unemployed.

A Tourist VV applicant is assessed for eligibility on their own merit, and their own ability to satisfy the primary criteria of Available Funds, being a Genuine Tourist, and Compelling Reason to Return Home, the good character test may also be applicable.    So some clarification with a Tourist Visa;

  • The application is made by the APPLICANT or Visitor, not you.  You can help, assist and advise, but in the end its the applicants application.
  • You can provide the applicant a letter of invitation to visit
  • You can provide the applicant a letter detailing an offer of support (free accommodation, meals, board, general expenses, transport etc), but this is just an offer, it is not sponsorship.
  • Any 'undertakings', 'guarantees' or 'assurances' to support the visitor, is considered an offer only, and will not negate the need fo rthe primary criteria to be met by the applicant.
  • Including some evidence of your financial stability, and your general good standing will add substance to your letter of support (ie proof of your identity, actual address, maybe a bank statement) But these are not essential.

What you must not forget is that regardless of these 'offers' of support, the applicant must meet the basic criteria on their own merits.  The most common aspect being the applicants need to prove they have sufficient funds in their own name for the length of the stay. They must be in the applicants name, as there have been many cases when an invited visitor arrives, under the financial support of a resident, to only find the relationship has ended the day they arrive and they are left penniless in Australia. It does not matter of you have $10Million in your account, if the applicant has none, or insufficient, then they will be denied a visa.  We do see some cases when this rule is relaxed, but generally IMMI want to see the funds in the applicants account.

Naturally a solid letter of offer from you to support the applicants stay, will reduce the amount of money IMMI will expect the applicant to have under their name, but not remove the requirement altogether.

So in summary, offers and letters of support may assist an applicant's application, but will NOT negate the need for the applicant to meet the financial requirements on their own merit.


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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Aussie Dude, thanks for all the writeups Mate, appreciated.

I have lived in China for 13 years now, met my Lady in 2005,  lived together since 2008, and married in 2010 here. We visit Oz yearly to se the family, have a look around etc.

We are applying for a permanent residence visa 801 for her because we are getting older and want to buy a house and spend more time in Oz as we please. 

 

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On 9/23/2018 at 9:21 PM, MarkMark said:

Aussie Dude, thanks for all the writeups Mate, appreciated.

I have lived in China for 13 years now, met my Lady in 2005,  lived together since 2008, and married in 2010 here. We visit Oz yearly to se the family, have a look around etc.

We are applying for a permanent residence visa 801 for her because we are getting older and want to buy a house and spend more time in Oz as we please. 

 

I hope it all goes well, keep us posted pls.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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So today I want to unpack Sponsorship versus Offer of Support with regard to Visitor visa (subclass 600).

With Visitor Visa's,  there a couple of sub-types (streams), the most common being the Tourist Visa. I will be talking about this general Tourist Visa, and not the sponsored Family stream.  But for quick context, the Sponsored Family Stream is only available to Citizens and PR holders, who wish to sponsor family members to visit.  Most often this requires a bond to be put up by the Sponsor, and is usually the path for family members who would not normally qualify for a Tourist Visa (i.e retired parents with no solid ties to return home).

Because of the concept of a Sponsored Family Visitors Visa, a lot of people assume, you can sponsor a Tourist. This is not correct.  The following generally applies to applicants from higher risk countries, from lower socio-economic status, or where they may be unemployed.

A Tourist VV applicant is assessed for eligibility on their own merit, and their own ability to satisfy the primary criteria of Available Funds, being a Genuine Tourist, and Compelling Reason to Return Home, the good character test may also be applicable.    So some clarification with a Tourist Visa;

  • The application is made by the APPLICANT or Visitor, not you.  You can help, assist and advise, but in the end its the applicants application.
  • You can provide the applicant a letter of invitation to visit
  • You can provide the applicant a letter detailing an offer of support (free accommodation, meals, board, general expenses, transport etc), but this is just an offer, it is not sponsorship.
  • Any 'undertakings', 'guarantees' or 'assurances' to support the visitor, is considered an offer only, and will not negate the need fo rthe primary criteria to be met by the applicant.
  • Including some evidence of your financial stability, and your general good standing will add substance to your letter of support (ie proof of your identity, actual address, maybe a bank statement) But these are not essential.

What you must not forget is that regardless of these 'offers' of support, the applicant must meet the basic criteria on their own merits.  The most common aspect being the applicants need to prove they have sufficient funds in their own name for the length of the stay. They must be in the applicants name, as there have been many cases when an invited visitor arrives, under the financial support of a resident, to only find the relationship has ended the day they arrive and they are left penniless in Australia. It does not matter of you have $10Million in your account, if the applicant has none, or insufficient, then they will be denied a visa.  We do see some cases when this rule is relaxed, but generally IMMI want to see the funds in the applicants account.

Naturally a solid letter of offer from you to support the applicants stay, will reduce the amount of money IMMI will expect the applicant to have under their name, but not remove the requirement altogether.

So in summary, offers and letters of support may assist an applicant's application, but will NOT negate the need for the applicant to meet the financial requirements on their own merit.


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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Fake Employment in Home country

I have probably stated the following point a dozen times, but daily I see people falling into this trap.

If you are going to claim that you have a substantial job in your home country, and that this job is a primary reason to ensure you return home after a visa has expired.  Please make sure the job is real.  Fake jobs, companies etc are so easy for Immi to check. As an example the Indian Government makes its Registered Business Index available online (as do most countries).  A 1 minute check by Immi staff will quickly determine if your employer is real or bogus.

People, just stop making up these fake companies and employers.  


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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I started this post in January 2016.  Some 300 quotes and 8,000 views later continue to inspire me to keep harping on about 'What NOT to do'.  Thank You all.

Todays Blog:  How to Fast track an application.

So, regardless of what you read, or what you have heard, or what is written on some non AU Government website, there is no way, method or trick to fast track (speed up) any (I mean ANY) form of Australian Visa, unless there is Ministerial intervention. But what about protection/refugee Visa's you ask?  Even these types of visa's, although given the highest processing priority, are generally processed in order of lodgement (the only exception here is Immi sometimes places priority on protect/refugee applicants from specific trouble spots (at time of writing, applicants from Myanmar and Yemen fall into this category).   

Excluding the above exceptions, I repeat there is no way, method or trick to fast track (speed up) any (I mean ANY) form of Australian Visa.

I read dozens of new posts a month, asking about 'what you can add to an application that makes it stand out', or 'what to add to bulk it up' to suggest credibility.  Generally speaking, most of these posts come from members foreign to Australian Culture and Values, and usually from countries where Government  functions may have less integrity than Australia (yes I mean applicants from countries with corrupt governments).  The Australian Federal Public Service, (i.e Immigration Staff) staff, policies and procedures are not perfect , but are unequivocally and undeniably impartial, fair and absolutely of the highest integrity.  It sometimes offends me when people suggest that otherwise.  Due to this difference in cultural standards and values between Australia and other countries, i feel, is the primary driver for these 'how can I fast track/cheat/stand out' posts.

Considering the above, I now make my point..

Every visa application is reviewed and processed in order of receival. 'Bulking' an application with meaningless information can in fact slow down an application. There are no short cuts, cheats or loop holes to fast track an Australian Visa. Nothing is better than a concise, complete and accurate application, that ticks all the boxes.  Based on a number of mis-informed posts recently, I need to add  'truthful' to this list.

Please take this opinion in the sincere spirit it was intended.  If your going to flame me, do it in IM.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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On 6/4/2018 at 7:23 AM, flowerxpower said:

Not like I'm complaining about immi cause I get it..they have to identify genuine relationships but it's hurting the genuince ones. I think the required evidences are way too many..like when you are together you don't think of making a picture to the receipt or to a bus ticket, and because of this, not gathering "enough of that too many required proof" affects the visa application .

If you're planning to apply for visa each move you make, you must be sure is recorded and you gather proof (:. Yea..but if you spend time together and then you decide to aplly for a visa? Not that much proof beforehand. Just 2 in love humans that complete each other from diferent countries want to be together..papers staying between them it's just heart breaking. 

I was very honest in my visitor application and it was refused. My current fiance sent me funds via bank (mentioned in the statement and explained) cause it was required an exorbitant minimum amount; + letter of invitation from his parents to stay with them and him and everything from accomodation, food was written there..+ statements, proof of relationship and all the required documents. It's true I didn't have a reason to return from their perspective but in statements we were honest and mentioned that we want a future together and we won't do anything to jeopardise it, respecting the law and visa conditions. I believe some people are subjective, unfortunately. 

We just want to be together and when we have to live separately it's just heartbroken..you know you can't be with your loved one because of some papers that humans created.

Also I want to thank you Aussie_83. I read your previous articles and I admire you for puttin s much effort and spending your personal time to help everyone. I'm happy world still has people like you. If this is not the right location to post I'll be ok to remove it.

Here is a tip to the inside workings of an Immi Case Worker/Examiner.  Fundamentally, if the relationship is genuine, there is ALWAYS evidence to support this fact.  Immi are very good at smelling bullshit.  You may think your smart, IMMI are smarter.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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On 6/4/2018 at 5:23 AM, flowerxpower said:

We just want to be together and when we have to live separately it's just heartbroken..you know you can't be with your loved one because of some papers that humans created.

 

She couldn't leave at the time (elderly parents), so I chose to stay in China and make my way, and it was damn difficult and I gave up a lot, just to be with my "loved one".

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Recently on Youtube I have been watching UK Border Force, I believe there are plenty of case examples there to learn also how not to approach a visa application.

 

 

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On 11/5/2018 at 5:02 AM, MarkMark said:

She couldn't leave at the time (elderly parents), so I chose to stay in China and make my way, and it was damn difficult and I gave up a lot, just to be with my "loved one".

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Recently on Youtube I have been watching UK Border Force, I believe there are plenty of case examples there to learn also how not to approach a visa application.

 

 

I had a similar experience with my now wife.  I stayed with her in Thailand for 2 years while we sorted out family, visa's etc.  Like you said, it was very hard initially, but I would pick Thailand over Mainland China anyday.  What it did teach me is the cultural isolation my wife will experience when she finally immigrated to Australia.  It really helped to be in her shoes, and experience what she will.  We forget that any extended cultural shift, for some, can be very challenging.  I remembered dreaming of meat pies, and seeking out English speakers to preserve my sanity.

But I suspect your a wiser man from the experience.

I chuckle at your mention of Border Force.  I don't understand why they don't make it compulsory viewing on any inbound flight to Australia. The UK has relatively lesser visa requirements than Australia.  The scenes I love is when the English Fluent foreign tourist is caught with contraband, and suddenly they loose all their English skills and dont understand squat.


 

 

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Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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6 hours ago, AussieDude said:

I had a similar experience with my now wife.  I stayed with her in Thailand for 2 years while we sorted out family, visa's etc.  Like you said, it was very hard initially, but I would pick Thailand over Mainland China anyday.  What it did teach me is the cultural isolation my wife will experience when she finally immigrated to Australia.  It really helped to be in her shoes, and experience what she will.  We forget that any extended cultural shift, for some, can be very challenging.  I remembered dreaming of meat pies, and seeking out English speakers to preserve my sanity.

But I suspect your a wiser man from the experience.

I chuckle at your mention of Border Force.  I don't understand why they don't make it compulsory viewing on any inbound flight to Australia. The UK has relatively lesser visa requirements than Australia.  The scenes I love is when the English Fluent foreign tourist is caught with contraband, and suddenly they loose all their English skills and dont understand squat.

That reminds me of my first trip over I started in Chiang mai a coupe of nights.  Went wandering for a few hours and I came across a restaurant 'authentic Thai restaurant,  special bangers and mash'

Though I know of a place in Udon you can buy a Aussie beef or NZ lamb. Next time I go I'll get lamb to try with Thai bbq

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8 hours ago, Aussie_83 said:

That reminds me of my first trip over I started in Chiang mai a coupe of nights.  Went wandering for a few hours and I came across a restaurant 'authentic Thai restaurant,  special bangers and mash'

Though I know of a place in Udon you can buy a Aussie beef or NZ lamb. Next time I go I'll get lamb to try with Thai bbq

I have always struggled to find good lamb in Thailand, even Bangkok.  I always take a cryovac pack of premium beef every trip into Thailand.  Its bribe currency for my expat mates LOL.


 

 

Disclaimer:

Makes me sick, in the fact that I must include a disclaimer. All opinions, advice and comments expressed by me are of my own personal opinion, and not that of a Immigration Agent, Lawyer, or related professional. They are given in the spirit intended, as an independant contributor, to a public forum. No implied, or expressed guarantee or undertaking as to accuracy or relevance is given.

 

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