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Hi all!

I’m currently on a bridging visa awaiting a decision on a partner visa (they are Australian), however it’s putting a lot of pressure on our relationship and worsening our pre-existing mental health issues. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what my options were for a different visa? I don’t want to rely on, and burden my partner with the pressure of doing the visa if I can help it.

I’ve been in Australia about 5 years already (Working holiday and then a failed 457 sponsorship), have built foundations here, and now consider the country home. So I’d like a visa that has prospects of Permanent residency.

I have a BA degree and 10 years of marketing experience, so I don’t know if there is an option to do a student visa? Is there anything in the marketing field I could study that could potentially lead to pr? Could I completely re-train in a new profession that has a skills shortage?

I’m not sure if there are any other visas that I could try?

Sorry for so many questions! I’m just feeling at bit lost at the moment.

Thanks :)

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6 minutes ago, woeid said:

Hi all!

I’m currently on a bridging visa awaiting a decision on a partner visa (they are Australian), however it’s putting a lot of pressure on our relationship and worsening our pre-existing mental health issues. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what my options were for a different visa? I don’t want to rely on, and burden my partner with the pressure of doing the visa if I can help it.

I’ve been in Australia about 5 years already (Working holiday and then a failed 457 sponsorship), have built foundations here, and now consider the country home. So I’d like a visa that has prospects of Permanent residency.

I have a BA degree and 10 years of marketing experience, so I don’t know if there is an option to do a student visa? Is there anything in the marketing field I could study that could potentially lead to pr? Could I completely re-train in a new profession that has a skills shortage?

I’m not sure if there are any other visas that I could try?

Sorry for so many questions! I’m just feeling at bit lost at the moment.

Thanks :)

Welcome to the Australian Visa Forum,

I am a little bit unclear what you are asking here.

You are in Australia on a Bridging Visa awaiting the outcome of your partner visa application, but waiting for the decision is worsening you pre-existing mental health issues. Have I got that part correct?

Because of the length of time that it is taking to grant your partner visa, you now want to look at other PR pathways, is that correct?

When exactly did you submit your partner visa application?

 

 


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7 minutes ago, woeid said:

I’m currently on a bridging visa awaiting a decision on a partner visa (they are Australian), however it’s putting a lot of pressure on our relationship and worsening our pre-existing mental health issues. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what my options were for a different visa? I don’t want to rely on, and burden my partner with the pressure of doing the visa if I can help it.

I have doubts about how genuine your relationship is if this is a concern. 

What visa are you current on.

What visa were you before the bridging visa

What countries passport do you hold?

What is your current occupation/qualifications?

I take it you wish to get PR on your own accord from your post, is this correct?

 

 

 

 

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The OP should spare a thought for those offshore partner visa applicants that are separated from their partners for what can be an extended period of time. At least the OP is in Australia on a Bridging Visa allowing them to remain lawfully until a decision is made on the partner visa application. 


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2 minutes ago, Nightcall said:

I have doubts about how genuine your relationship is if this is a concern. 

What visa are you current on.

What visa were you before the bridging visa

What countries passport do you hold?

What is your current occupation/qualifications?

I take it you wish to get PR on your own accord from your post, is this correct?

 

 

 

 

What I was thinking, perhaps the underlying issue here. 

If you are in a genuine relationship, have submitted a partner visa application, and on a Bridging Visa, there would be no logical or sound reason to start looking at other PR pathways. 


Please note that this posting is of a general nature only. It does not constitute legal or migration advice and may not apply to your particular circumstances.

 

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Correct AVF. Despite how much we care about each other it’s putting a strain on our relationship. If I could find a different visa path it would remove a lot of pressure in our relationship and in turn be better for our mental health.

We applied only a few month ago so there would still be a long wait. 

Correct Nightcrawl, I wish to try and get PR on my own accord.

 

Im on a BVA at the moment, a 457 visa before than, and hold a British passport.

 

I have a Bachelors degree in advertising and media, so not really on the skills shortage list.

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I know I should be grateful than I’m in the situation I’m in, but mentally I’m struggling to see through the clouds. All my previous visa applications have to some degree been reliant on other people, and the insecurity is damaging my health (and my relationship), I’m insecure and a worrier anyway by nature. That’s why I want to try and be responsible for my on path to PR, if that makes sense.

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1 hour ago, woeid said:

Despite how much we care about each other it’s putting a strain on our relationship. If I could find a different visa path it would remove a lot of pressure in our relationship and in turn be better for our mental health.

I can't understand how it would be putting pressure on your relationship unless the sponsor was using it as domestic violence or control issue, if they are I suggest  you contact one of these support agency's. 

https://www.whiteribbon.org.au/find-help/support-services

If you're in danger of physical violence call 000 and ask for the police. 

There are provisions with your visa that you may still be able to get PR without a sponsor if you are suffering domestic violence , but you need to take action to protect your safety foremost.

1 hour ago, woeid said:

Correct Nightcrawl, I wish to try and get PR on my own accord.

I don't believe you can given your skills and occupation and the timeframes. I think you have miss the boat since the changes in 2017.

 

 

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2 hours ago, woeid said:

I know I should be grateful than I’m in the situation I’m in, but mentally I’m struggling to see through the clouds. All my previous visa applications have to some degree been reliant on other people, and the insecurity is damaging my health (and my relationship), I’m insecure and a worrier anyway by nature. That’s why I want to try and be responsible for my on path to PR, if that makes sense.

I'm certainly no expert on mental health issues. However, I think there are definitely some underlying issues here that you are not been frank about. Your application has only been in for a few months. Being on a Bridging visa allows you to remain lawfully in Australia. You would have full work rights and not tied to a specific occupation or employer. On top of this, you would have recently paid in excess of AUD$7000 for the visa fee which is non-refundable. 

Do you mind if I ask, how strong is the nature of your claimed relationship? Do you feel that perhaps the partner visa application has potential weaknesses?   


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2 hours ago, Nightcall said:

I can't understand how it would be putting pressure on your relationship unless the sponsor was using it as domestic violence or control issue, if they are I suggest  you contact one of these support agency's. 

https://www.whiteribbon.org.au/find-help/support-services

If you're in danger of physical violence call 000 and ask for the police. 

There are provisions with your visa that you may still be able to get PR without a sponsor if you are suffering domestic violence , but you need to take action to protect your safety foremost.

I don't believe you can given your skills and occupation and the timeframes. I think you have miss the boat since the changes in 2017.

 

 

Thanks Nightcall! It has been used as a control issue at times when we’ve had arguements, nothing that’s got violent thankfully. It’s mentally draining though when it’s used as a weapon against you.

 

Shame to hear I missed the boat, I know Marketing was removed a while back which seems to have been my only option.

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12 minutes ago, AFV said:

I'm certainly no expert on mental health issues. However, I think there are definitely some underlying issues here that you are not been frank about. Your application has only been in for a few months. Being on a Bridging visa allows you to remain lawfully in Australia. You would have full work rights and not tied to a specific occupation or employer. On top of this, you would have recently paid in excess of AUD$7000 for the visa fee which is non-refundable. 

Do you mind if I ask, how strong is the nature of your claimed relationship? Do you feel that perhaps the partner visa application has potential weaknesses?   

Our relationship was a bit hot/cold before we lodged, but we felt that love would be stronger that it (no couples perfect, right?). I guess we thought that after lodging it would be a big weight off of our (my) shoulders, but it hasn’t quite worked out like that.

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If it's being used as a control issue, it's classed as abuse. I would still recommend you contact the support services to discuss the issues you may have, even to just get it of your chest as such.

Have a read of the website I linked too, lots of good information on it. 

You may not want to hear it at this stage, but I will say it anyway, to be thinking how you are and to ask the questions you have on a forum, I believe you know how you are being treated isn't right.

Please consider getting help. 

More than happy to help with any visa questions, but your safety both mental and physical is far more important. 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, woeid said:

Our relationship was a bit hot/cold before we lodged, but we felt that love would be stronger that it (no couples perfect, right?). I guess we thought that after lodging it would be a big weight off of our (my) shoulders, but it hasn’t quite worked out like that.

Sorry to tell you this, but it's not the case, marriage, kids or a visa doesn't fix underlying issues. IMHO your partner using the visa against you is abuse, and not what someone who truly loves you would do.

They can dislike, argue, disagree, be angry etc with you as much as they want that's normal, but once they use something as important as a visa to control you it becomes abuse. It's the power imbalance that's the key here.

As I said above, please contact a support agency even just for a chat. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nightcall said:

If it's being used as a control issue, it's classed as abuse. I would still recommend you contact the support services to discuss the issues you may have, even to just get it of your chest as such.

Have a read of the website I linked too, lots of good information on it. 

You may not want to hear it at this stage, but I will say it anyway, to be thinking how you are and to ask the questions you have on a forum, I believe you know how you are being treated isn't right.

Please consider getting help. 

More than happy to help with any visa questions, but your safety both mental and physical is far more important. 

 

 

 

Thanks Nightcall! I’m seeing a therapist so I can vent there.

You’ve helped a lot already, thanks! I guess (aside from the student visa), do you think there are any other options, besides canceling the visa and returning home?

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No sorry  I don't see any other visa options, but consider what I have said, if what you have said is true, there is family violence provisions within your current visa. Your partner is committing family violence if they are using your visa status to control you.

Family violence is not always physical, in fact mental abuse can be and is often far more damaging.   

It's a very 'hot topic' in Australia at this point, I still strongly suggest you seek support from organisations that specialise in this, even for a informal chat. Please don't assume your therapist knowns of these options.  

 

 

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